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stickwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

Here's what I want to do:

I want to use Amadeus to do long recordings to mp3. Basically the way a lecture-recorder sort of thing would work. I'm using it for music lessons. What I want to do is to have it save mp3 files as I'm recording, but I want to be able to just hit one button at times and have it start a new mp3. The goal is to have the entire lesson recorded but have separated tracks so students can go back and easily have the different sections pre-cut.

If there's a way to do this with Amadeus, or an alternative software that someone would suggest, I'd appreciate help. Otherwise, I'd like to request such a feature for the future.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

I think there is a one-button to insert a market. Then just split by
markers.

Chuck

stickwolf wrote:
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Here's what I want to do:

I want to use Amadeus to do long recordings to mp3. Basically the way a lecture-recorder sort of thing would work. I'm using it for music lessons. What I want to do is to have it save mp3 files as I'm recording, but I want to be able to just hit one button at times and have it start a new mp3. The goal is to have the entire lesson recorded but have separated tracks so students can go back and easily have the different sections pre-cut.

If there's a way to do this with Amadeus, or an alternative software that someone would suggest, I'd appreciate help. Otherwise, I'd like to request such a feature for the future.

Thanks.




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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can tell, it's just "M" but that only works when looking at the already recorded file, or when recording it asks for a name and such and have to click enter before the next marker can be placed.

If I didn't have to click enter, this could work, although with the extra steps of splitting and then saving all the separate files.

None of that gets to my ideal goal, which is not just to have a file marked, but to be saving to mp3 while recording. I want to be able to click one button and have it start making an mp3 and then click one button to have it start making a new mp3 with the same name but a subsquent number after as in "file1" "file2" "file3". The goal is to just quit after that, and have no prep time for the files, just have split mp3s ready to go.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

On 26/07/2008, at 10:58 AM, stickwolf wrote:

Quote:
Here's what I want to do:

I want to use Amadeus to do long recordings to mp3. Basically the
way a lecture-recorder sort of thing would work. I'm using it for
music lessons. What I want to do is to have it save mp3 files as
I'm recording, but I want to be able to just hit one button at
times and have it start a new mp3. The goal is to have the entire
lesson recorded but have separated tracks so students can go back
and easily have the different sections pre-cut.

If there's a way to do this with Amadeus, or an alternative
software that someone would suggest, I'd appreciate help.
Otherwise, I'd like to request such a feature for the future.

Thanks.

In Amadeus II you could insert markers while recording by hitting the
Tab key. I just had a look at the Amadeus Pro documentation and it
doesn't mention that, but it would be worth trying.

Ron
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stickwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tab doesn't appear to do anything.
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Martin Hairer
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

Quote:
If I didn't have to click enter, this could work,

OK, the version at <http://www.hairersoft.com/Downloads/
AmadeusPro.zip> includes
a 'M' shortcut that creates a marker while recording without popping
up a window.

Quote:
although with the extra steps of splitting and then saving all the
separate files.

You can use the "Sound -> Split according to markers..." function.
This involves no extra steps.
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Martin

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stickwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded that, and I don't see any difference. The window still popped up when recording and clicking M.

But thanks about the Split according to markers... I imagined before trying it that it would not save, but would open a bunch of separate files as windows in Amadeus. It works EXACTLY as I wanted, thanks!!

So here's my request, and it should be simple since most operations are there already. I want to have "split according to markers" function exactly as is, but in conjunction with "save while recording" so that it automatically makes a folder and saves split files whenever markers are added during recording.

If I can get one-button markers during recording to work though, I'll be functional without the save while recording. The split works great.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

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I downloaded that, and I don't see any difference. The window still
popped up when recording and clicking M.

When I wrote 'M' I really meant 'shift-m' and not just 'm'. (Hopefully
this is clear Wink )
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CDJonah_alt



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

I like the new "M" command -- that used to be the default back many
years ago in AII (when I ran it on my abacus).



Martin Hairer wrote:
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Quote:
If I didn't have to click enter, this could work,

OK, the version at
<http://www.hairersoft.com/Downloads/AmadeusPro.zip> includes
a 'M' shortcut that creates a marker while recording without popping
up a window.

Quote:
although with the extra steps of splitting and then saving all the
separate files.

You can use the "Sound -> Split according to markers..." function.
This involves no extra steps.
Regards,

Martin

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

That did it!

I just really wish I could have the command be a single key and not need the shift modifier.

And a minor glitch: if I leave the marker names blank, then the Split command fails to put them into the folder that it makes. I'd prefer that if the marker names are blank it used the overall folder name for the file names, and successfully put them in the folder.

Anyway, I think I've now got everything working in a way that will really do all I need for the present. Thanks!

-Aaron
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Request or help: auto-track-split or mark Reply with quote

What happens if you put the shift-lock on? If that works, you then have
one key.

Also, I can see why it wouldn't save and start a new one. You would
need to make sure the digitization isn't interrupted while opening and
saving a new file and starting a new stream for the next file. Probably
do-able, but probably one would have to be very careful.

Chuck

stickwolf wrote:
Quote:
That did it!

I just really wish I could have the command be a single key and not need the shift modifier.

And a minor glitch: if I leave the marker names blank, then the Split command fails to put them into the folder that it makes. I'd prefer that if the marker names are blank it used the overall folder name for the file names, and successfully put them in the folder.

Anyway, I think I've now got everything working in a way that will really do all I need for the present. Thanks!

-Aaron




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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonah,

Caps lock and shift function totally independantly. It isn't likely actually having the shift key down, even though it sends the signal to the computer to have uppercase letters.

As for the starting and stopping a file, there would probably be a break in audio, you are right. It might be minimal, and for my purposes I don't care really. I'd use the non-saving-as-recording for when I cared, and the save-while-recording for when I just wanted the separate files.

But actually, I don't care so much any more. I had Amadeus crash the first time I tried recording a 40 minute audio file and I lost the data, unlike some times when it ended up being retrievable. So the save-while-recording was something I started doing. But actually, as long as it doesn't crash (and I've had no trouble lately), I don't really care, I'll just do the shift-m and split thing.

But I still request a single key, and also for fixing the glitch when saving with unnamed markers.
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