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mjzee



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: Question re burning a CD Reply with quote

I own a CD that has 14 tracks, and was recorded by the record company at a very low volume. I would like to normalize each track to an appropriate volume, then burn those tracks to a CD. How can I create this CD in Amadeus?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:01 am    Post subject: Figured it out Reply with quote

I've just figured it out on my own. The steps:
1) Open the tracks in Amadeus and normalize.
2) Save each one to a folder on the desktop.
3) Drag the tracks into Toast Titanium.
4) Rip the CD using Toast.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:15 pm    Post subject: Question re burning a CD Reply with quote

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I've just figured it out on my own. The steps:
1) Open the tracks in Amadeus and normalize.
2) Save each one to a folder on the desktop.
3) Drag the tracks into Toast Titanium.
4) Rip the CD using Toast.

You might do better using the Sound > Join Files function. This will allow
you to easily group all of the album's files into a single indexed file.
Normalizing them as a single unit will retain their relative amplitude
values, whereas normalizing them one-by-one will lose that.

The companion function of Sound > Split According To Markers will then all
you to export them back into individual files, when you can then burn to
disc.
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mjzee



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, but I'd still need a different program, such as Toast, to create an audio CD of all the tracks, correct?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:04 am    Post subject: Question re burning a CD Reply with quote

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OK, but I'd still need a different program, such as Toast, to create an audio CD of all the tracks, correct?

You can also use the "Burn to CD" function from the "Sound" menu.
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mjzee



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all. These are good tips that will save me time and effort. As pm said, normalizing the joined file will retain the tracks' relative amplitude. However, sometimes the amplitude variations from track to track can be large and can degrade the listening experience. In that case, I can normalize each individual track, save them to a folder on the desktop, then join those files and burn to CD.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:39 pm    Post subject: Question re burning a CD Reply with quote

One comment -- you may not really want to normalize all tracks,
depending on what is in them. for example, if one track has a very
short loud section, and another track is all pretty much at the same
volume, then listening to the constant volume section will feel like you
are really being slammed. I would have thought that the original CD
would have had levels appropriate to the music; a quiet lullaby and a
party song really should be at different levels, but as it was all done
at a low level, the assumption that care was used on the original CD may
be an invalid assumption.

Chuk

On 3/30/16 9:35 AM, mjzee wrote:
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Thanks to all. These are good tips that will save me time and effort. As pm said, normalizing the joined file will retain the tracks' relative amplitude. However, sometimes the amplitude variations from track to track can be large and can degrade the listening experience. In that case, I can normalize each individual track, save them to a folder on the desktop, then join those files and burn to CD.





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pm@philxmilstein.com



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:01 pm    Post subject: Question re burning a CD Reply with quote

Right. I was meaning if the original disc was of a singular album, where the
tracks had all been mastered as pieces-of-a-whole.


Charles Jonah wrote:

Quote:
One comment -- you may not really want to normalize all tracks,
depending on what is in them. for example, if one track has a very
short loud section, and another track is all pretty much at the same
volume, then listening to the constant volume section will feel like you
are really being slammed. I would have thought that the original CD
would have had levels appropriate to the music; a quiet lullaby and a
party song really should be at different levels, but as it was all done
at a low level, the assumption that care was used on the original CD may
be an invalid assumption.

Chuk

On 3/30/16 9:35 AM, mjzee wrote:
Quote:
Thanks to all. These are good tips that will save me time and effort. As pm
said, normalizing the joined file will retain the tracks' relative amplitude.
However, sometimes the amplitude variations from track to track can be large
and can degrade the listening experience. In that case, I can normalize each
individual track, save them to a folder on the desktop, then join those files
and burn to CD.






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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD & PM: Quite right. This particular CD is Art Tatum - The V-Discs (Black Lion), issued in 1988. The material is obviously much older than that. The CD was mastered at a very low volume, so it all needed to be boosted, but given the nature of the varied sources, some needed to be boosted more than others. FYI, re the reason why I needed to burn it back onto a CD: I'm in the process of reviewing which albums I had ripped to iTunes in the early days at 192 kbps, and re-ripping them using Apple Lossless. However, I don't want to lose the information I've entered (musicians, recording dates) or the play count. In order to achieve this, iTunes seems to need to rip the material from a CD; if I do this from a file on my computer, iTunes won't see it as the same tune I'm trying to replace, but rather as a new tune.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all. These are good tips that will save me time and effort. As pm said, normalizing the joined file will retain the tracks' relative amplitude. However, sometimes the amplitude variations from track to track can be large and can degrade the listening experience. In that case, I can normalize each individual track, save them to a folder on the desktop, then join those files and burn to CD.
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